tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37512247.post6709903360118775829..comments2023-12-24T11:20:38.708+00:00Comments on The Muniment Room: Standing Up For The PopeTtonyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15185875893212146794noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37512247.post-6628200095705522422010-03-31T22:29:22.981+01:002010-03-31T22:29:22.981+01:00I look forward to it Ttony. Have a blessed Triduu...I look forward to it Ttony. Have a blessed Triduum.Anagnostishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03706938507885553293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37512247.post-34095705114584504492010-03-28T20:24:53.710+01:002010-03-28T20:24:53.710+01:00My guess would be that the two earth-shattering ev...My guess would be that the two earth-shattering events which turned Catholicsm ultramontane were the French Revolution and the loss of the Papal States.<br /><br />Leaving aside the effect of the politics of either event, the ecclesiastical consequences were; of the former, the fact that the Pope began to nominate Bishops rather than the monarchs of the different countries; of the latter, that the Pope (or maybe the Pope and the Curia) had nothing left to govern other than the Church. The former is a major mess still, while as far as the latter is concerned, I think JP2 to a certain extent, and BXVI completely, have sorted out what they are for. (The refusal by the Pope to have the tiara on his coat of arms is massively significant.)<br /><br />E&OE - this is a quick reply.<br /><br />Every time I try to get my head around Orthodoxy I realise how radically the Roman Church has changed in the last two hundred or so years. The Reformation, or more exactly the Counter-Reformation, was a blip in comparison.<br /><br />I'll be in touch over the holidays with something a bit more considered.Ttonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15185875893212146794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37512247.post-6082479021245574612010-03-28T20:03:56.307+01:002010-03-28T20:03:56.307+01:00Ttony
At what point did Catholicism begin to mean...Ttony<br /><br />At what point did Catholicism begin to mean the Pope deciding what one "should do from day to day".<br /><br />Before, or after, the Reformation? Before or after the 19th Century? Within the past fifty years?<br /><br />I'd be amazed if, even in Dante's time, the vast majority of non-Italian Catholics could even name the reigning Pope with any confidence.Anagnostishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03706938507885553293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37512247.post-50617569165663937832010-03-27T22:03:02.911+00:002010-03-27T22:03:02.911+00:00I fear the niceities of Anglo-Catholicism makes it...I fear the niceities of Anglo-Catholicism makes it hard for one to leave it for something they know to be objectively true.Antonionoreply@blogger.com